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Police Photo-Op With Protester

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The Crisis of Credit Visualized from Jonathan Jarvis on Vimeo.

Is Economic Growth Good or Bad? NY Times columnist response...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/business/media/06askthetimes.html

Is Economic Growth Good or Bad?

Q. I am interested in your opinion concerning whether economic growth, which is universally hailed as a good thing, is sustainable into the infinite future. Also, is capitalism possible without treating the earth as an infinite resource and, at the same time, an infinite garbage dump? I have heard it said from businessmen that a business must grow or die. As the earth slowly but surely runs out of resources, how can businesses continue to grow? Must not the human race eventually stabilize its population at some number that reflects the ability of the sun and the earth to continuously renew those resources that the human race depends on? Will not that fact bring about the end of mining the earth for anything? How many people can the earth sustain in such a circumstance? Are there any politicians out there addressing these questions?

— Richard Cahall, Bend, Ore.

Nicholas Kristof: I’m a huge believer in the power of economic growth. Sure, it leads to pollution, climate change and other problems. But it also means that parents send their children to school and get them vaccinated, and then in turn birth rates drop. In addition, one of the great risk factors for civil wars and ethnic clashes — the most terrifying things I’ve ever seen — is economic stagnation. In 1998, when Indonesia’s economy collapsed, I saw mobs drag naked, headless corpses through the streets of East Java; that anarchy and drift to savagery was a consequence of the economic problems.

So, sure, we need smarter economic growth, and we have to be on the lookout for externalities, like economic growth that is based on poisoning the earth, water and air. But growth itself is a good thing, and almost anybody who has seen the brutal consequences of global poverty accepts that.

G20 police 'used undercover men to incite crowds'

A British Member of Parliament claims he saw two undercover cops acting as agents provocateurs at the G20 demonstrations, attempting to get the crowd to riot. It was during one of the "kettling" sessions (this is a tactic used by UK cops wherein all protesters and bystanders are crammed into a physical space that is cordoned off indefinitely, and though the protesters are not charged with any offense, they are not allowed to leave, seek medical care, use toilets, etc). The men apparently threw missiles at the cops and tried to get others to do the same, then, after being accused of being provocateurs, flashed credentials at the police and passed through their lines.

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As recession deepens, more Americans go fishing

MEREDITH, New Hampshire (Reuters) – From his wooden fishing shack on Lake Winnipesaukee's thinning skin of ice, Mike MacDonald doesn't need to think twice about why more Americans are going "fishin'" in the deepening U.S. recession.


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Comment on NY Times site

Reader comment on a David Brooks NY Times column. Silly, simple, yet probably more insightful than a bazillion experts.

"More likely, we'll crawl out of this recession and the liberals will say that it was because of progressive government and the conservatives will say that we would have gotten out of it faster if it weren't for all the government intervention. And we'll keep on arguing until the next cycle.

Kurt Vonnegut had it right when he called all the politicians "Persuasive Guessers". Let's be honest, the administration is winging it and we should hope that they're either brilliant or lucky."
-frank, dc

Oh how I miss the evil villainy days

Remember the days of Bush's administration making secret CIA prisons in other countries so they didn't have to follow Geneva laws? How adorable.

From a Washington Post analysis on Obama's orders yesterday, including an interesting behind-the-scenes on how the Wash Post disclosed the secret CIA program:

The CIA, which had taken the lead on counterterrorism operations worldwide, asked intelligence contacts around the globe to help its teams of covert operatives and clandestine military units identify, kill or capture terrorism suspects. They set up their first interrogation center in a compound walled off by black canvas at Bagram air base in Afghanistan, and more at tiny bases throughout that country, where detainees could be questioned outside military rules and the protocols of the Geneva Conventions, which lay out the standards for treatment of prisoners of war.

As the CIA recruited young case officers, polygraphers and medical personnel to work on interrogation teams, the agency's leaders asked its allies in Thailand and Eastern Europe to set up secret prisons where people such as Khalid Sheik Mohammed and Ramzi Binalshibh could be held in isolation and subjected to extreme sleep and sensory deprivation, waterboarding and sexual humiliation. These tactics are not permitted under military rules or the Geneva Conventions.

Eventually their worries reached a handful of reporters trying to confirm rumors of people who seemed to have disappeared: a Pakistani microbiologist spirited away in the dead of night in Indonesia. An Afghan prisoner frozen to death at a base code-named the Salt Pit. A German citizen who did not get back on his bus at a border crossing in Macedonia.

Front companies and fictitious people were used to hide a system of aircraft that carried terrorism suspects to "undisclosed locations" and to third countries under a little-known practice called rendition."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/22/AR2009012203929.html?hpid=topnews